Oh - the first rule is simply a rule to delete mail that come from yourself, as we're already moving them to the unified folder. I sent to a lot of lists of which I'm a member, and I don't need two copies of the same mail.
One more thing - you'll notice that I only do this for mails that are tagged. If they're not tagged, slapping them into one huge folder is gonna make it really tricky to find later on.
Thanks for the response, Gabe. Your idea is to create an outbox rule that moves the message to a certain folder. I guess you are doing the "move" in a separate rule so you can assign a shortcut key to it.
I guess, it's not possible to move "current message" to "prior message's folder" with prior message (in an outbox rule) is the message I replied to?!
Support Staff5 Posted by Scott on 01 Nov, 2010 07:11 PM
We are working on this kind of functionality in MAO 3. We have been reticent of incorporate it fully because we anticipate problems where people would inadvertently store their sent mail in their inbox (leading to many "support" issues)
One thing you can also do is create smart mailboxes for specific correspondents to show email to and from those correspondents.
I bought mail act on mainly because I thought it would allow me
to automatically move stuff from my sent mail to the inboxes so
that I can keep both sides of the conversation together.
Unfortunately I can't figure out a way to make that work. All the
workarounds I have seen on this sight involve some multi-step
Currently I just cc myself on any outgoing messages. This sort
of works. The problem is that it confuses Apple's threading
algorithm so I get messages from multiple threads combined into one
since the cc makes the sender also a receipient and so if the
subject line matches that of another thread, the threads get
It would really be nice to have rules the work on the "sent"
mailbox so that I can automatically combine both sent and received
into a single conversation.
Mail should be orgainzed by account not by inbox and sent mail.
Inside an accounts mailbox when listing the mail the "read" icon is
all that is needed to distinguish incoming mail (ie it hasn't been
Samuel, this is a suggestion that I did not try myself yet.
There is a menu entry "Mailbox > Use this mailbox for". I can
not set my inbox to be used as sent folder. But what about creating
a rule to send any incoming mail to a certain folder and
additionally setting this folder as "sent folder" using "Mailbox
> Use this mailbox for > Sent"?
Hi Scott; I have also had this conversation with you many times
over the years. I have never really understood your view on the
support side of this issue. Thunderbird uses the text "Place
replies in the folder of the message being replied to" with a
checkbox. I don't have any stats, but I suspect there are many more
copies of Thunderbird out in the world than Mac Mail. Is it your
premise that TB users or more sophisticated than Mail users, so not
needing additional support, or maybe they are just better readers
and followers of instruction. If you ever do decide to add it, I
certainly will welcome, and promise to never cry for help if you
put my mail exactly where I ask you too. :-) Thanks for Mail Acton
and MailTags. I love them both. Even without this feature, they
make Mail a useable client.
Given that the big new feature of Apple Mail in Lion is
"CONVERSATIONS", it seems that Mail Act may have missed the boat.
The workflow for people who use email
productively is to include both sides of a conversation in one
thread. Not doing it that way is just plain inefficient. Apple
finally "got it". Mail Act On even though they could have, decided
not to "get It".
Support Staff15 Posted by Scott on 21 Jun, 2011 02:27 PM
MAO is not about showing conversations -- never suggested that
it is was for this and it would have been a monumental task to add
this in. It would also take away from the focus of MAO, which is
about controlling the location and attributes of messages through
rules and giving the user the ability to decide where messages
should be archived and when. If anything conversations views was
something we would have considered for MailPerspectives had Apple
not added it in Mail 5
The conversation views of Mail 5 does a good job of linking
messages together regardless of where they are in your Mail library
--- but it doesn't do what many people need -- to have better
control over where sent mail is actually archived (i.e. not
necessarily in the sent mail folder)
There are really good reasons why people need to have this
better control. One that comes to the top of my head is that users
need to archive to specific IMAP folders so they can maintain
organization on a server that other clients use.
In anycase MAO 2 will be ready to ship with Lion as a free
update. MAO will be coming later
I was tinkering with a colleague's developer preview of Lion,
and it looks like the new mail.app solves this problem
If you're looking at one mail thread with replies scattered in
more than one mailbox, the new Lion Mail.app will reconstruct the
whole thread into one conversation. It's like a library of
conversations now, instead of a huge set of folders with individual