MailTags and openmeta tagging, redux
Just to follow up my now closed discussion, I did upgrade to
MailTags 2.3.1 and I see the same behavior I observed previously;
searching for "tag:xxxx" in the Finder only brings up files I have
tagged with an openmeta application, like Leap, and a few emails
which have the same keyword assigned in MailTags. None of the
emails are recent and some of the emails that show up don't even
have the relevant keyword applied according to the MailTags menu
pane. However, searching for "keyword:xxxx" does bring up all
emails that have had the relevant keyword added plus the same
emails that apparently don't have the keyword assigned (as far as I
can tell). In short,
i) MailTags keywords are still not openmeta compatible
ii) For some reason, keywords are being associated with emails but
are not shown in the MailTags menu.
I still use MailTags (a lot) but as of now I have to do two
searches for any given tag/keyword.
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Support Staff 2 Posted by Scott on 10 Mar, 2010 05:35 PM
MailTags 2.3.1 doesn't have the latest changes I have incorporated into the snow Leopard version.
Can you try the following build
http://www.indev.ca/Downloads/PreRelease/MailTagsSLCR7b1.dmg
While it does state Snow Leopard compatibility release, it is indeed compatible with 10.5 -- I just haven't announced it yet.
3 Posted by befuddled on 10 Mar, 2010 06:19 PM
Scott
Thank you for the response.
My workplace is not yet ready for SL. Is this build considered beta
for Leopard? I am a little too busy to beta test at the moment.
Thanks again.
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Support Staff 4 Posted by petra on 10 Mar, 2010 06:24 PM
It's working for us but hasn't been tested yet by our beta testers.
Support Staff 5 Posted by petra on 26 May, 2010 08:27 PM
Hi
This is a old issue and several updates have come out since its initial report but I see the issue is still open.
Are you still experiencing this issue with the latest release of MailTags or can I close it?
6 Posted by befuddled on 27 May, 2010 09:12 PM
Well, I am not sure if it is working. For example, I searched in Mail
for "xxxx" in "keywords" and pulled up 585 messages. All of these
appeared to have keywords assigned (previously I had messages that
would appear in a search but there were no keywords indicated). I
searched in Spotlight for "keyword:xxxx" (and in the Finder using
"Keyword contains xxxx") and got 625 messages. If I do the same thing
for "tags" I got 107 messages. I also searched in Leap and the results
agreed with Spotlight/Finder. So I don't understand the discrepancy.
It does appear that messages to which I have assigned keywords
recently with Mailtags are appearing in the "keywords" searches in
Spotlight/Finder and in Leap. My understanding, from the Leap
documentation, is that open meta tags are "tags" and that "read-only
tags set by other applications (like Mailtags) are referred to as
keywords" (I am paraphrasing). Leap, for instance, doesn't show any
editable tags when I select a message that has the "xxxx" keyword
assigned.
Maybe this is a difference in how keywords/tags get assigned and where
they are stored. My conclusion is that if I am looking for a message
in Mail, searching for a Mailtags keyword seems reliable. But if I am
looking in the Finder or in Leap, I have to search for both "keywords"
and "tags" to find everything (and I still don't understand the file
number differences). In short, while I like the idea, I think these
tagging/keyword schemes are of limited use.
Thanks for asking.
Support Staff 7 Posted by Scott on 28 May, 2010 05:46 PM
Hello
because of changes to the open meta framework that many pieces of software use, versions installed is somewhat important. As a rule OM should update existing data as it needs to to conform to the changes but something it doesn't alway happen.
One thing that may help is to rebuild your spotlight database.
in the terminal the following command will do this
8 Posted by befuddled on 02 Jun, 2010 03:52 PM
Hi
I had previously rebuilt the spotlight database (and reindexed the tags) and there are still differences in the search results. For some reason, there were many messages (so not just due to random error) with misassigned tags (visible in Leap/Finder but not in MailTags). I fixed those but the search results still don't coincide. I did notice there was about a seven month period (around 1/09 to 8/09) where NO messages were showing in the MailTags keyword search. I checked (these were archived messages) and there were messages with the appropriate tag in this time period. Just scrolling through the list caused the Leap search to update and now MailTags is finding many more messages with the search keyword. However, the keywords in this time period are very much messed up (misassigned keywords) and the search results are still not the same. Maybe there was a "bad" version of MailTags in that time period or something got corrupted.
I will try another spotlight update tonight.
Thanks.
Support Staff 9 Posted by petra on 01 Sep, 2010 07:05 PM
Hi
This is an old issue and several updates have come out since its initial report but I see the issue is still open.
Are you still experiencing this issue with the latest release of MailTags or can I close it?
10 Posted by befuddled on 09 Sep, 2010 09:15 PM
Things seem to be behaving better now for me now, with the later versions.
Close 'er up.
Thanks.
Scott closed this discussion on 10 Sep, 2010 12:12 AM.